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#51 Post by London Redsox » 14 Aug 2006, 13:29

DrG wrote:Think the main area I get confused with is all the differing innings, or whatever they are called. Do they have like ten or something innings for each team?
9 innings per team. Each inning consists of three 'outs' - that is, once three players on the batting team are out (ball is caught, ball is thrown to a base before the runner gets there etc), their inning is over and the other team gets to bat.
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#52 Post by Agrajag » 14 Aug 2006, 15:22

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DrG wrote:Think the main area I get confused with is all the differing innings, or whatever they are called. Do they have like ten or something innings for each team?
9 innings per team. Each inning consists of three 'outs' - that is, once three players on the batting team are out (ball is caught, ball is thrown to a base before the runner gets there etc), their inning is over and the other team gets to bat.
What confused me in trying to "get" Cricket by reading posts is the damn word "out". Used in both games but meaning totally different things.

In baseball, each batter tries to get home to score a run, and in doing so will get on base (be called "safe") or won't get on base (be called "out"). Like LoSox said, "out" is having the ball caught in the air, or the ball reach the base before the runner, or the ever popular strike out (3 strikes per at bat). (Let me know if you need explanation between calling ball/strike during an at bat)

Scoring is much easier than in Cricket--each player that goes around the bases and crosses home in each inning (like LoSox said-9 innings per side) scores a run. At the end of 9, whoever has the most wins. In the case of a tie, there are extra innings--each team gets 3 more "outs" to try to score one inning at a time as long as the tie remains.

It's the little rules (balks, Infield flies, third strike passed balls, etc.) that still confuse me cause I watch about 10 games a season :roll:
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#53 Post by Philip » 14 Aug 2006, 15:45

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DrG wrote:Think the main area I get confused with is all the differing innings, or whatever they are called. Do they have like ten or something innings for each team?
9 innings per team. Each inning consists of three 'outs' - that is, once three players on the batting team are out (ball is caught, ball is thrown to a base before the runner gets there etc), their inning is over and the other team gets to bat.
What confused me in trying to "get" Cricket by reading posts is the damn word "out". Used in both games but meaning totally different things.
No they don't. Both games have a set number of outs which when reached means that the inning is complete. In baseball, it's three; in cricket, ten.

What's more, the means of making outs are very similar. Typically: being caught, failing to defend a certain portion of the playing area (strikezone/wicket), failing to reach a designated safe zone (base/crease) before the ball can be delivered there by the fielding team.

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#54 Post by Agrajag » 14 Aug 2006, 15:56

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DrG wrote:Think the main area I get confused with is all the differing innings, or whatever they are called. Do they have like ten or something innings for each team?
9 innings per team. Each inning consists of three 'outs' - that is, once three players on the batting team are out (ball is caught, ball is thrown to a base before the runner gets there etc), their inning is over and the other team gets to bat.
What confused me in trying to "get" Cricket by reading posts is the damn word "out". Used in both games but meaning totally different things.
No they don't. Both games have a set number of outs which when reached means that the inning is complete. In baseball, it's three; in cricket, ten.

What's more, the means of making outs are very similar. Typically: being caught, failing to defend a certain portion of the playing area (strikezone/wicket), failing to reach a designated safe zone (base/crease) before the ball can be delivered there by the fielding team.
I really need to watch a game with these posts printed out....
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#55 Post by Hiller » 21 Aug 2006, 14:20

So what the heck happened with the Pakistan/England game? Was it the refs fault or was Pakistan really cheating? And do they use the same ball for the whole game?
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#56 Post by DrG » 21 Aug 2006, 15:41

Hiller wrote:So what the heck happened with the Pakistan/England game? Was it the refs fault or was Pakistan really cheating? And do they use the same ball for the whole game?
Pakistan are famous (or should that be infamous?) for ball-tampering. They got into trouble over it during the Test series in 1992, and now they are at it again. I'm not sure if they are actually guilty, but something was clearly wrong as the umpires don't usually kick up a fuss over nothing. It's a very serious offence in the cricket world as scuffing or gouging the ball can cause a reverse swing, and is very difficult to bat against. Therefore, a doctored ball can give the fielding team an unfair advantage.

Not sure off the top of my head how long they keep the ball in play for in a Test match. It gets changed at least every new innings, or if it becomes damaged. Acutally - just checked wikipedia and it says that the captain of the fielding side can change the ball after 80 overs if they wish.
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#57 Post by Philip » 21 Aug 2006, 18:49

DrG wrote:
Hiller wrote:So what the heck happened with the Pakistan/England game? Was it the refs fault or was Pakistan really cheating? And do they use the same ball for the whole game?
Pakistan are famous (or should that be infamous?) for ball-tampering. They got into trouble over it during the Test series in 1992, and now they are at it again.
They were never officially charged with ball-tampering in 1992. The tabloid media ran a story -- which quickly became sensationalized -- that suggested that gouging the ball was the only explanation for the reverse-swing that the Pakistani bowlers could induce from an old ball. Now that the reverse-swing effect has been analyzed and understood, the accusations have less merit. Both Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were good enough and fast enough to extract reverse-swing without cheating.
DrG wrote:Not sure off the top of my head how long they keep the ball in play for in a Test match. It gets changed at least every new innings, or if it becomes damaged. Acutally - just checked wikipedia and it says that the captain of the fielding side can change the ball after 80 overs if they wish.
Clubs also keep a stock of balls of various different ages and conditions should a replacement be needed if the live ball is lost or damaged beyond the point of being serviceable.

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#58 Post by Humphrey » 29 Aug 2006, 04:20

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The US team in mostly blue, the Canadian team in mostly red. (Canada won the match by ten wickets.)
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#59 Post by Steel Frog » 29 Aug 2006, 10:40

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The US team in mostly blue, the Canadian team in mostly red. (Canada won the match by ten wickets.)
This made less news in the US than the girls' little league world series. No kidding...but I'm burned up all the same. :balrog:

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#60 Post by sldawgs » 29 Aug 2006, 11:43

Steel Frog wrote:
Humphrey wrote:Image
The US team in mostly blue, the Canadian team in mostly red. (Canada won the match by ten wickets.)
This made less news in the US than the girls' little league world series. No kidding...but I'm burned up all the same. :balrog:
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#61 Post by rinasings2u » 12 Jan 2009, 14:56

my dad watches cricket. very big everywhere except america

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#62 Post by bratzks » 12 Jan 2009, 18:38

rinasings2u wrote:my dad watches cricket. very big everywhere except america
What about the moon? Is it very big there? Or the bottom of the ocean?
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#63 Post by Philip » 12 Jan 2009, 19:59

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rinasings2u wrote:my dad watches cricket. very big everywhere except america
What about the moon? Is it very big there? Or the bottom of the ocean?
Indian Ocean, yes. Others, not so much.

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#64 Post by TravisBickle » 13 Jan 2009, 03:33

rinasings2u wrote:my dad watches cricket. very big everywhere except america
Um....not here and no, you can't count French cricket.
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#65 Post by Mazer » 13 Jan 2009, 16:51

Humphrey wrote:Image
The US team in mostly blue, the Canadian team in mostly red. (Canada won the match by ten wickets.)
On the upside, I learned about this. I'll give a very belated woo!

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#66 Post by Steel Frog » 13 Jan 2009, 16:54

Mazer wrote:
Humphrey wrote:Image
The US team in mostly blue, the Canadian team in mostly red. (Canada won the match by ten wickets.)
On the upside, I learned about this. I'll give a very belated woo!
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